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		<title>By: From the Potting Shed &#124; Headset Hotties</title>
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		<dc:creator>From the Potting Shed &#124; Headset Hotties</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: scottcarver.info &#8250; From the Potting Shed</title>
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		<dc:creator>scottcarver.info &#8250; From the Potting Shed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 23:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gareth J M Saunders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gareth J M Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 08:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you believe, this blog is hosted on a Pipex (WebFusion) server?  I&#039;ve had pretty good service from Pipex.

As I&#039;ve said before I chose BT because they seem to own, oversee and maintain the communications network in this country, and therefore *should* be the right people to contact when things are going pear-shaped.

Admittedly, all the problems encountered so far *have* been fixed ... it&#039;s just been frustrating a) getting the call-centre folks to take me seriously enough to do something about it, and b) see a) above (it&#039;s quite important)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you believe, this blog is hosted on a Pipex (WebFusion) server?  I&#8217;ve had pretty good service from Pipex.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said before I chose BT because they seem to own, oversee and maintain the communications network in this country, and therefore *should* be the right people to contact when things are going pear-shaped.</p>
<p>Admittedly, all the problems encountered so far *have* been fixed &#8230; it&#8217;s just been frustrating a) getting the call-centre folks to take me seriously enough to do something about it, and b) see a) above (it&#8217;s quite important)!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BT are, well BT - in my experience they have never changed, for 20 years they have been rubbish and no doubt will continue for another 20

Watch you phone bill with some of these ISP&#039;s when they use 0870 numbers for support, can cost a fair bit - found this a great site !

http://www.saynoto0870.co.uk/

Try Pipex, the best customer service but the most confusing interface for webmail and checking your account on-line

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BT are, well BT &#8211; in my experience they have never changed, for 20 years they have been rubbish and no doubt will continue for another 20</p>
<p>Watch you phone bill with some of these ISP&#8217;s when they use 0870 numbers for support, can cost a fair bit &#8211; found this a great site !</p>
<p><a href="http://www.saynoto0870.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.saynoto0870.co.uk/</a></p>
<p>Try Pipex, the best customer service but the most confusing interface for webmail and checking your account on-line</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Essie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Essie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reading your broadband problems and nodding sympathetically - I&#039;m with Orange, and I lose the ability to view webpages randomly, and every week or so (2 days ago I went to get something to eat, having been online for a couple of hours, and couldn&#039;t connect when I got back.) So I don&#039;t have your ability with networks etc, but I do know a thing or two, and I&#039;m frustrated at phoning India (it&#039;s Chennai, actually, and the climate is lovely) to tell them that the PPP server is down, what does that mean? To be told &#039;now we will reset the livebox...&#039;. The answer to any query! They are not proper IT experts but have a script, and can&#039;t deviate from it.

Thing is, I feel quite powerless - isn&#039;t there anything we can do about this? I have to wait a minimum of 15 minutes before speaking to an advisor, and then I get the script (which I have now memorised, including the admin passwords, and it&#039;s stuck to the side of my livebox for when it goes down again, which it invariably will, in about four days&#039; time).

So basically, it&#039;s sympathy from me, and a realisation that orange are no better, or worse, than other providers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading your broadband problems and nodding sympathetically &#8211; I&#8217;m with Orange, and I lose the ability to view webpages randomly, and every week or so (2 days ago I went to get something to eat, having been online for a couple of hours, and couldn&#8217;t connect when I got back.) So I don&#8217;t have your ability with networks etc, but I do know a thing or two, and I&#8217;m frustrated at phoning India (it&#8217;s Chennai, actually, and the climate is lovely) to tell them that the PPP server is down, what does that mean? To be told &#8216;now we will reset the livebox&#8230;&#8217;. The answer to any query! They are not proper IT experts but have a script, and can&#8217;t deviate from it.</p>
<p>Thing is, I feel quite powerless &#8211; isn&#8217;t there anything we can do about this? I have to wait a minimum of 15 minutes before speaking to an advisor, and then I get the script (which I have now memorised, including the admin passwords, and it&#8217;s stuck to the side of my livebox for when it goes down again, which it invariably will, in about four days&#8217; time).</p>
<p>So basically, it&#8217;s sympathy from me, and a realisation that orange are no better, or worse, than other providers.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for completeness in case anyone else comes past looking for network connectivity diagnosis, let&#039;s not forget firewalls and telnet.

Make sure you&#039;ve got no sockets listening with a quick `netstat -an&#039;, before disabling the firewall.

And the reason I mention this is because FTP comes in two distinct kinds, active (where you negotiate a port on which you listen and the server connects back to you to push the actual data) and passive (where you connect to it on a range of ports or port 20 for the data). So, if you have a rather naive firewall that&#039;s blocking everything new coming in, active FTP won&#039;t work. Most browsers use passive by default, which is good, and ftp from the commandline should be configurable.

You can test connectivity to a particular port with   telnet  hostname portnumber, eg telnet www.google.com 80. If you get an error about `connection refused&#039; it&#039;s probably not listening; if you get a timeout, you&#039;ve more likely got a firewalling problem. (Not exclusively, but arranging for this is good firewall design.)

HTH :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for completeness in case anyone else comes past looking for network connectivity diagnosis, let&#8217;s not forget firewalls and telnet.</p>
<p>Make sure you&#8217;ve got no sockets listening with a quick `netstat -an&#8217;, before disabling the firewall.</p>
<p>And the reason I mention this is because FTP comes in two distinct kinds, active (where you negotiate a port on which you listen and the server connects back to you to push the actual data) and passive (where you connect to it on a range of ports or port 20 for the data). So, if you have a rather naive firewall that&#8217;s blocking everything new coming in, active FTP won&#8217;t work. Most browsers use passive by default, which is good, and ftp from the commandline should be configurable.</p>
<p>You can test connectivity to a particular port with   telnet  hostname portnumber, eg telnet <a href="http://www.google.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com</a> 80. If you get an error about `connection refused&#8217; it&#8217;s probably not listening; if you get a timeout, you&#8217;ve more likely got a firewalling problem. (Not exclusively, but arranging for this is good firewall design.)</p>
<p>HTH <img src='http://blog.garethjmsaunders.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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