Comments on: Christian vs Christ-follower http://blog.garethjmsaunders.co.uk/archives/2007/09/23/christian-vs-christ-follower/ The Revd Gareth J M Saunders' weblog Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:43:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Relationship » Christian vs Christ-follower http://blog.garethjmsaunders.co.uk/archives/2007/09/23/christian-vs-christ-follower/#comment-47222 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:09:22 +0000 http://blog.garethjmsaunders.co.uk/archives/2007/09/23/christian-vs-christ-follower/#comment-47222 [...] unknown wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptThe intent was to say that following a set of Christian ideals or traditions without Christ being the true focus, following Christianity rather than following after Christ himself, is not what a relationship with Christ is all about. … [...] […] unknown wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptThe intent was to say that following a set of Christian ideals or traditions without Christ being the true focus, following Christianity rather than following after Christ himself, is not what a relationship with Christ is all about. … […]

]]> by: Andrew Weir http://blog.garethjmsaunders.co.uk/archives/2007/09/23/christian-vs-christ-follower/#comment-47175 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:53:15 +0000 http://blog.garethjmsaunders.co.uk/archives/2007/09/23/christian-vs-christ-follower/#comment-47175 meant to leave this <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=53&chapter=2" rel="nofollow"> link </a> meant to leave this link

]]> by: Andrew Weir http://blog.garethjmsaunders.co.uk/archives/2007/09/23/christian-vs-christ-follower/#comment-47174 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:51:36 +0000 http://blog.garethjmsaunders.co.uk/archives/2007/09/23/christian-vs-christ-follower/#comment-47174 okay, so aside from the unwarranted "loose firewire" gag on no 4, those clips are pretty cool. if anything, a good place to start some conversation and see what happens. I love the church and I *think* Jesus does too. However what the church is and what it's perceived to be are not the same. the church is the body of Christ on the earth. I know we've lost sight of that a lot during our history. The whole *debate* on Christian vs Christ-follower is an interesting one. Paul writes to the Corinthian church that there is a "secret and hidden wisdom" God wants to reveal to the mature. I think this current discussion is one where God is calling His people to maturity. One of the marks of maturity is that we have a greater sense of perspective and some of the dogma is stripped away. Let's grow us, let God's love change our hearts from stone to something more real and we can get on with loving the world as we have been loved. <a href="http://http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=53&chapter=2" rel="nofollow"></a> okay, so aside from the unwarranted “loose firewire” gag on no 4, those clips are pretty cool.

if anything, a good place to start some conversation and see what happens. I love the church and I *think* Jesus does too. However what the church is and what it’s perceived to be are not the same. the church is the body of Christ on the earth. I know we’ve lost sight of that a lot during our history.

The whole *debate* on Christian vs Christ-follower is an interesting one. Paul writes to the Corinthian church that there is a “secret and hidden wisdom” God wants to reveal to the mature. I think this current discussion is one where God is calling His people to maturity.

One of the marks of maturity is that we have a greater sense of perspective and some of the dogma is stripped away. Let’s grow us, let God’s love change our hearts from stone to something more real and we can get on with loving the world as we have been loved.

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